Recap: Panthers Game Highlights Everything Wrong with the Washington Redskins
by Kevin Ewoldt on Oct 12, 2009 8:05 AM EDT
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Print"You talk about a monkey on your back, this was a gorilla," coach John Fox said. The Redskins continue to give life to every porous team in the NFL.
Ken and I talked on the phone post-game and it's clear the Redskins are not just a bad team about to break out, they are a bad team, period. The fundamental mistakes continue every week, and the ignorance that the offensive line is adequate was again exposed. What has me fuming the most from the loss yesterday is Mike Sellers play that resulted in the safety. Some fans are blasting Zorn for a wide run play call, but if you look at the tape, Sellers doomed this play. As Brian Billick pointed out, the fullback's job is to run forward as if he had the ball. Punch a hole. After the jump is the video (1:35 mark), Sellers as the lead blocker never crosses the goal line. UNACCEPTABLE. How is Portis suppose to find a gap when his lead blocker never runs past the line of scrimmage and never engages a single player?
The Byron Westbrook gaff on the Antwaan Randle El fair catch is another one. It's special teams 101 to stay clear of the punt returner, yet he failed to do that on multiple punts.
Report Card Time
Offense: D-
The Skins only two touchdowns were a result from the defense giving them the ball in the red zone. Why is this offense STILL out of sync after 29 games together (including pre-season)? The 2nd round picks continue to do their best hide-and-seek impressions failing to make any impact. Devin Thomas has to make that catch.
Defense: C-
16 first downs? For as many games as I can remember, the Redskins again lost the time of possession battle. I'm still furious with the tackling. The most obvious is DeAngelo Hall's failure to contain on the final bootleg, then his inability to bring down a skinny, old QB in the open field. Did you notice that one run play where Jon Stewart carried the entire Redskins defense for 10 yards and a first down? Look at Hall on that play. He barely throws a shoulder. Pathetic.
Also, it is clear Orakpo should not be starting at LB. On that one touchdown, he was never in position from the snap, and he for sure will get torn apart in the film study. The discouraging thing was Orakpo wasn't covering a Witten or Dallas Clark, some no-namer. Square peg, round hole.
Special Teams: F
This is an easy one. Besides the punt debacle, allowing the 55-yard kickoff return setup Delhomme's first TD pass, and the momentum changed from there.
Front Office: F--
With Chris Samuels list of injuries last year, it was crystal clear to everyone (including fans like ourselves who know 1/100th of what coaches know) the Skins needed to draft a guard. The fact they thought the line was adequate was totally exposed. D'Anthony Batiste looked lost. Peppers went around him with ease, which changed the entire game plan. Portis was chipping on that side almost every play, and Cooley had to stay in and block for almost all his plays. Awesome! One of the worst offenses in the league now has to use two of their best three offensive weapons (Portis and Cooley) to stay in the backfield and block. Heyer probably wouldn't have a job in the NFL if it wasn't for the Redskins. How does Dan Snyder not take a look at his decision makers and say, "I have some poor talent evaluators here!"
Looking forward to the Chiefs, does anyone think we can beat them? I watched their game against the Cowboys and they looked very good. Then the Eagles? The Eagles will probably be double-digit point favorites for that game. How will Snyder react to a blow-out loss at home on Monday Night football? I don't know either, but it's going to be two weeks full of drama that not even the Lifetime channel could dream of. Let's go Caps?
TEAM STAT COMPARISON
1st Downs
15
16
8
10
5
4
2
2
2-9
4-12
0-1
0-1
Total Plays
52
60
Total Yards
198
248
Passing
124
162
17-23
16-25
5.4
6.5
Rushing
74
86
24
32
3.1
2.7
Red Zone (Made-Att)
2-3
2-3
Penalties
4-20
5-27
Turnovers
1
2
1
1
0
1
Defensive / Special Teams TDs
0
0
Possession
28:43
31:17
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I choose other..
The defense was doing what they were supposed to be doing all year, getting pressure and ceating turnovers and then we gave the offense short field advantage and they did what they were supposed to do capitalize. unfortunatly that was the first half and this team doesn’t know how to play a whole game i’m not sure if it’s the game planning (lets hope it’s this cause then maybe MAYBE sherman lewis can help) or if it’s the players not comming in focus’d or what but somethng has to change. Did anyone else like the push Mike Williams was getting when we ran behind him in the beginning?
this game was over when Samuels got hurt.
I'm to young to Die Danny...don't make me do it tomorrow....
Because of the Coaching
Yes, it makes it a different game, and yes the line has serious problems with or without Samuels but at what point does this stop being an excuse for Coaching.
What other NFL team causes a QB sneak at the Opponents 1 yard line, but it was never used when the team needed 1 yard earlier in the season. College and HS teams do that all the time.
Why do you run a sweep play instead of direclty behind Mike Williams, it’s called a DIVE
Yeah the Redskins have all kinds of issues with the players and the front office but the Coaching staff is a joke…Gotta start somewhere.
don't get it twisted
the coaching sucked , of course. but the offense can’t get anything started when the qb’s looking up at the sky when he needs to be looking downfield. somebody made the point that we were using our 2 biggest playmakers to stay back and block because of the deficiencies of our O-Line. THAT’S the FO’s fault.
I say Portis calls out Sellers again ’cuz that love tap he gave to Peppers on his way to crush Portis was BS.
Gotta start somewhere.
Yea, the draft.
I'm to young to Die Danny...don't make me do it tomorrow....
I am not buying it with...
Coaching, the line is bad but there are worse, you coach to make things better with play calling
which lines are worse than our non-Samuels?
there aren’t any.
As Rekka said, there’s plenty of blame for Zorn. But when Samuels went out yesterday I too said, “it’s over”
The Offensive Line is Snyder's Fault
interesting stat
JC got sacked two more times than Delhomme.
I'm to young to Die Danny...don't make me do it tomorrow....
they're in another class above us
and it’s been improved this year
The Offensive Line is Snyder's Fault
Green Bay's O-line is atrocious
but they can still put up some numbers.
by BayAreaBullet on Oct 12, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
they're atrocious is much higher than ours
they’ve got nothing that resembles Heyer at LT and MW at RT, which is what we’re going to trot out next week
The Offensive Line is Snyder's Fault
maybe with Tauscher signed this week
I think the Packers right and left tackles are no better than Heyer and M. Williams. They are just really bad.
by BayAreaBullet on Oct 12, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Disagree
M Williams shouldn’t be on a roster, and Heyer is barely a starter at RT, let alone LT
The Packers were starting their talented guards at tackle.
A good out of place lineman is miles better than whatever you consider Mike Williams.
The Offensive Line is Snyder's Fault
Yep
What a joke. Dockery is the only one remotely skilled, and he still isn’t great. Heyer got obliterated on that safety and Sellers tried to salvage the play by stretching it out, but it was a stupid decision. With our talent up front we’d be lucky to win 2 more games this year.
idea
The tackle get’s beat, how about the lead blocker take the man out
Sellers tried to salvage the play by stretching it out
No, it’s easier to stretch the play and make no contact…that is a failure of the coach to properly coach the players.
Yes, Heyer got blown up, but so would 1/2 of the other tackles in the league trying to block Pepppers when he decides to play. Why not run up the middle instead of off tackle, Why not a quick 3 step drop pass, no run towards one of the best defensive ends (when he plays) who is to be blocked by a weak offensive line man.
He got paid
Why should he play ball anymore?
by brettpedigo on Oct 12, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
at what point could he have dived forward?
almost immediately after the snap, someone had pursuit from the backside, number 58 it looks like, so he wasn’t going to get out then. MAYBE he could have, but you try to follow your lead blocker in those situations, just so happens that the lead blocker couldn’t block my grandfather rolling through in his wheelchair.
I'm to young to Die Danny...don't make me do it tomorrow....
by Rekka on Oct 12, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
When the play called was a Dive vs a sweep
OK so he couldn’t, but if Williams is in to be a big blocker for the run then why not a simple DIVE play first Williams, Then Sellers, Then Portis….
Other-ALL the ABOVE
And yes I can read that you said most, but I can’t seperate any of those statements…as the most!
While things still break down, and frustrations exist:
I do not fault the defense for any of the losses this season. It’s time for the offense to be an offense and stop being nothing but a bunch of excuses.
Yes, the line is a problem but so are other team’s lines
Cooley left in to block, ok that was a joke too along with Sellers “blocking” FB , maybe he should be a tour guide.
Portis left in to block, well he is very good at blocking but as far as running with a purpose, not so much anymore
Where are the slants, quick throws across the Middle, crossing routes. The 2nd year guys need to be involved more than just token plays and long bomb passes before judgement is passed on their performance, and why are they not involved?
What we have is...
a leaderless, unmotivated team with some glaring talent holes in it playing a high school scheme not very well.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Let’s go Caps?
The Caps have been shooting themselves in the foot these past couple of games with penalties, letting these scrubs come back and take away the game. Sound familiar?
I'm to young to Die Danny...don't make me do it tomorrow....
It's early
Ted leonsis + George McPhee > dan snyder + Vinny cerrato
by Kevin Ewoldt on Oct 12, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
oh believe me
Ted leonsis + George McPhee > dan snyder + Vinny cerrato
I KNOW in my head, heart and soul that that’s true. It just hurts. I’m just sick and tired of being sick and tired of this team. I’m tired of getting calls and texts from assholes that don’t even watch football tell me my team sucks and I don’t even have anything to respond with because this team hasn’t given me anything. I guess it’s time for me to go the way of the pessimist. Should make it easier.
On a more positive note, I’m going to my first Caps game in a couple of weeks.
I'm to young to Die Danny...don't make me do it tomorrow....
Tiny Tim + Pee Wee Herman > Dan Snyder + Vinny Cerrato
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
did you
REALLY just say that? Is there anyone with a pulse who doesn’t realize it? That’s like casually mentioning Kobe Bryant > Deshawn Stevenson. I’d be happy as hell if Leonsis somehow convinced Danapolean to sell him the Skins and then disappear forever.
yea, it's obvious to us...I should have re-worded that better...
But there are a lot of HH readers from the west coast who don’t know or care for anything about the Caps…
by Kevin Ewoldt on Oct 12, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Caps have a long season, they’ve played around 5% of it to date. You have time to make mistakes and clean them up.
The skins on the other hand have had years to work on personnel acquisition and have failed on an epic scale from day one. The only think I have to look forward to every year as a skin’s fan is the first day of free agency.
I know
it’s just a frustrating time right now. the caps are the lonely bright spot in this city and I’m thankful for them. I’m on see-it-to-believe-it mode with the wizards.
I'm to young to Die Danny...don't make me do it tomorrow....
Well I saw it last Tuesday night
Believe It
by Parks Smith on Oct 12, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
don't do that
it’s monday. this isn’t the time for me to be excited. but I’ll go check out what’s going on with them anyways…..
I'm to young to Die Danny...don't make me do it tomorrow....
Which will make it more likely that we’ll have two QBs named Colt on the team next year. I’ld also be willing to bet that the only OLineman we get are in either past the 5th round or UFAs.
knowing the stupidity of the FO
you are most likely right on the money.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
but 4-12
is (I think) an even more real prospect. 3-3 will be the illusion that 2-2 was and if you saw how KC fought the Cowgirls yesterday you’d think twice about 3-3.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
I did see it and guess what the Cowboys aren’t VERY GOOD. We’re at home get over it.
by Parks Smith on Oct 12, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
oh..I'm over it all right
And yes, they aren’t very good but they are a lot better than us
God I hate saying that………F the Cowgirls!
BTW, home field is not considered an advantage when our own fans will boo us louder than the opposition.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
I wouldn't
be surprised either way at the Chiefs game. We SHOULD beat them, but we all know that means nothing around here. It’s the Bucs game all over again. Do we have the pride to step up and finish a game out?
What is scary is AFTER the Chiefs game. It’s very possible we could go on a 6 game losing streak. Dallas may be our saving grace. While they are better than us, they still suck. And we seem to be able to get up for them. Same with Philly, except Philly is pretty goddamed good right now.
The Skins have only beat the Chiefs once
1-8. They have a smart fiery young coach. They have passion. It of course, will be close as usual, but in the end 2-4, here we come!!!!!
by brettpedigo on Oct 12, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
So we should just go off of historical stats to determine the outcome of games?
Sweet we’re 3-1-1 then! And we’re going 9-6-1 this year!
Other
Vinny Cerrato and Dan Snyder are completely 100% at fault for everything on the field.
The keyboard is mightier.
couldn't agree more
and can’t be highlighted enough.
at some point this season I reached the point where when a player f-cks up, or Zorn calls the wrong play, I just start cursing Danny (and Cerrato to a lesser degree).
This is Danny’s disaster, and he’s forced it on us, the loyal fans.
The Offensive Line is Snyder's Fault
Other....
I am pissed because this team has no identity. I thought we were the “Hogs” A undrafted free agent from a crappy Maryland squad. A guy out of football for two years, and a injury prone Has been? Wow, I realize that Snyder loves Scientology ow, but THIS IS NOT A MOVIE!!!!!!!! We will suffer for ever. We will go 5-11, trade our second and first round pic in ’11 for Sam Bradford neglecting the real problem, and the horrible o-line will have him Shell Shocked leading to a worse career than Campbell. No fundamental football here. No identity…. Just suckage mediocrity forever. F-you Snyder.
I just feel like a hostage.
The dude is a tyrant. He is young. He is not going anywhere for the rest of my life. He is bleeding every dollar from the history of this team and the bleeding hearts of his fans. He is a thief of the absolute worst form. Again F-you you thieving slime bag.
by brettpedigo on Oct 12, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Skins and the Panther's are like 2 Ooompa Loompas
Arguing over which one is bigger. Both are 4-12 teams. The Panther’s are a slightly better 4-12 team, but does it really matter?… come January neither team will be in the playoffs.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
it does matter some...
They can draft some players and be back to a playoff contending team…Redskins can’t.
by Kevin Ewoldt on Oct 12, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Why not?
What if we had a draft like the Bengals did last year?
Why couldn’t we?
by Parks Smith on Oct 13, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
We can and he knows it
Deep down past the disappointment and bitterness… he knows that we CAN right this ship with a good, solid draft and a new PROVEN coach.
what's possible and what's likely are very, very,
VERY different.
The Offensive Line is Snyder's Fault
They traded away their first round pick next year for Everette Brown...
They’re pretty much as fucked as we are.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
I know im late but I’m just getting back from Charlotte because I went to the game. I’m stupid for not recording the game but I do know one thing, heyer got blown up on tne safety play , its not sellers fault.
The Rod has spoken
Heyer did get blown up...
but there’s no excuse for Sellers to play like he did.
by Kevin Ewoldt on Oct 12, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
My eyes must be playing tricks
smutsboy1 listed an Order of blame and didn’t have Snyder on it, WTF?!
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