Live Game Thread: Redskins @ Panthers
by Kevin Ewoldt on Oct 11, 2009 12:00 PM EDT
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PrintWell, the Redskins face their 5th straight game versus an opponent who has 0 wins. Hopefully we'll be seeing a lot of the picture on the right.
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Redskins blog reports inactives are: H. Smith, Barnes, Alridge, E. Williams, Henson, Rinehart, Mitchell, Montgomery
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Matt terl just texted me
Hunter smith is out. Pakiluk s on the field
in pads
by Kevin Ewoldt on Oct 11, 2009 12:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
First game thread experience
for me, but unfortunately it will also be the first game I’ll miss this season.
EVERYONE AND THEIR MOTHERS
is picking against the Skins…and I am tempted to agree. We can all keep wishing to have a break out game, but that seems less realistic each week. I think the panthers are much more likely to have break out game if Delomme doesnt screw it up, especially after the bye and at home. They have some serious weapons (Smith, Williams, Stewart) who can all bust a huge play on any down. I have an ugly feeling about this one. Say it aint so? Come on Skins, prove me (and everyone else) wrong!!
PS…LOL at the two coach pics at the top
PPS...the Skins
are the underdog against a winless team. OUCH.
by burgundyNgold on Oct 11, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
if Kelly is
“injured”, why don’t they activate Mitchell? And when is Alridge gonna play? We may need him as a 3rd back today once Sellers skips out on his block and CP gets mauled.
Thank you Jesus!
Let the Halo power flow...
by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Oct 11, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Super Sunday will suffice
Get some beatches!
Let the Halo power flow...
by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Oct 11, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
best part of that fumble
haynesworth should have not gotten that recovery….the ball just sat there. he went down and then wrestled it away…so studly
I think he was just
taken aback at how the game has started. This is the kind of stuff that happens AGAINST us.
crowd is quiet but
A good underneath rumble when the skins scored. A lot of empty seats still
HttR
by dr WNC on Oct 11, 2009 1:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Samuels
isn’t getting younger is he? Damn we need some solid young o lineman bad
by williamhudsonlink on Oct 11, 2009 1:10 PM EDT reply actions
Think
we will spend a first rounder this year on a left tackle? that would be great in my book.
by williamhudsonlink on Oct 11, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't want to get too far ahead
But, today’s looking like a break out game for us. But you didn’t hear that from me…
randle el failure
Let the Halo power flow...
by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Oct 11, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank
God for the defense. Or the last 5 years would have been really bad
by williamhudsonlink on Oct 11, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions
Chris samuels has a stinger
Return questionable. Batiste is taking over
by Kevin Ewoldt on Oct 11, 2009 1:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Batiste?
Ok then. This could get good. Batiste on Peppers… hmm…
by williamhudsonlink on Oct 11, 2009 1:16 PM EDT reply actions
mobile is tough
To keep up but the skins really do look solid
by dr WNC on Oct 11, 2009 1:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Where are the Hogs when you need them?
Let the Halo power flow...
by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Oct 11, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions
are you friggin serious?
thats like 8 this year.
by burgundyNgold on Oct 11, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Sticky fingers Campbell
Let the Halo power flow...
by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Oct 11, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Is their a Qb in the house?
Let the Halo power flow...
by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Oct 11, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Cowboys fans
complain about Romo. I will trade em straight up campbell for Romo anytime
by williamhudsonlink on Oct 11, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions
stay on the campbell wagon
ride it til the wheels fall off
by williamhudsonlink on Oct 11, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Dallas
didn’t waste a high draft pick on Romo’s sorry ass. That’s the difference.
by williamhudsonlink on Oct 11, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Phuck Romo
I love our team as is, coaching is the root of our problems.
Let the Halo power flow...
by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Oct 11, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
coaches
can only be successful if they have solid players. we have some solid players.. but look at our o line right now. it’s patchwork for god’s sake
by williamhudsonlink on Oct 11, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, anal beads
lol
Let the Halo power flow...
by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Oct 11, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
peppers
made batiste look like a fool on that play…if samuels can go again today were in real trouble
Am I the only one whose TV feed seems to be crapping out? It has jumped back about 5 seconds in time and then jumped back a bunch of times now?
Time for the rabbit ears maybe?
directv has been good here
no jumping
by williamhudsonlink on Oct 11, 2009 1:24 PM EDT reply actions
It could have been ingenius
he might have just gotten a time out without actually calling time out.
It screwed up Carolina’s timing
cj is right
looked like he just went spacey and fell down.
by williamhudsonlink on Oct 11, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe it was
eli manning “i broke my heel” syndrome
by burgundyNgold on Oct 11, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Blessed
We have been truly blessed with awful football this year. These two teams are atrocious.
Pump him up with some air then!
Let the Halo power flow...
by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Oct 11, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I love Billick...
If he calls Santana “Santonio” one more time I don’t know what I’ll do….but I’ll love it. I think it’s a blatant sign of disrespect for our oft injured “number 1” receiver.
two players
key to our success have gone down in 1 QTR. the football gods are trying to tell us something
D-Line man up NOW
Let the Halo power flow...
by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Oct 11, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions
Haynesworth just needs a blow
(That’s always funny)
Yeah, he's great in the slot...
when we need a prayer after every measly catch.
RAande fell failure!
Let the Halo power flow...
by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Oct 11, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
because
our team is where old washed up vets come to collect paychecks.
Steelers got his best years for sure
by williamhudsonlink on Oct 11, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't tell Vinny and Danny that.
Let the Halo power flow...
by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Oct 11, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Randle Fell .... good one.
but i prefer Randle Smell.
Is it possible
that we see more 3rd and longs than 1st and 10s? Think about it.
i was
scared to death he was gonna fumble
by williamhudsonlink on Oct 11, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions
Is it true
that Kevin E caught the herps from Ron Mexico?
is campbell
the slowest running non white qb to ever play the position.
warren moon was quicker i think
by williamhudsonlink on Oct 11, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions
does anyone have this game in hd?
My antennae is picking up standard def . usually it’s high def
by williamhudsonlink on Oct 11, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions
i have directv
watching on antenna though. not through directv. directv gave me new york fox. not washington fox
by williamhudsonlink on Oct 11, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions
my LO DEF
signal says – " No need to call us, we know we’re EFFIN IDIOTS!!!" We’ll fix it right after the game."
Panthers are about 5 feet away from the end zone
They just ran up the middle for no gain two times in a row
second a goal.
stewart stacked up. no gain
by williamhudsonlink on Oct 11, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions
third down
from the two. i form. d williams. stacked up by d hall
by williamhudsonlink on Oct 11, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions
Hell Yes!
fourth down. going for it. timeout carolina
by williamhudsonlink on Oct 11, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions
Thank you Jerry Jonnes for keeping that clown
Let the Halo power flow...
by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Oct 11, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
speaking of the other NFC East teams...
can you say COMPLETE DOMINATION by the Giants?
by burgundyNgold on Oct 11, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
They apparently fumbled
and the refs are saying that an illegal player on the Panthers picked it up, so it’s Redskins ball on the 1 yard line. BUT, the Panthers have challenged.
horrible call . a stretch run on the goalline? WTF
by williamhudsonlink on Oct 11, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions
on Wednesday
Jerry Gray said Byron Westbrook was the quickest guy on the team. Said they used him ti simulate Steve Smith. Wish we’d use him now to simulate a punt returner>
okay sorry i'm late how did they get a safty
by confederate_gent on Oct 11, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions
portis
A great back but he does not appear to be running he can block but he’s not running hard
by dr WNC on Oct 11, 2009 2:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
so this is how it feels to be leading at the half
i kinda like it lol
by confederate_gent on Oct 11, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions
we dont want the chiefs to be too good though
we play them next :scared:
by burgundyNgold on Oct 11, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris Samuels is out for the rest of the game
For the best…but it’s obvious Batiste is horrible. The front office has to realize now how much they fucked up not drafting linemen.
WOW
You see that replay of the safety. Sellers did not block ANYONE!!!! He went wide and not forward…Portis was screwed.
Well he needs to
Do his paybacking on his own time. He’s screwing with the entire team and Redskins Nation when he doesn’t block properly.
why is it so hard
to find a receiver open down the field, other than moss? are the receivers not open or is campbell just not finding them?
indeed
however its still only a 1 possession game. can the skins shut them out the rest of the way? my money is on No.
by burgundyNgold on Oct 11, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Dhall is always in the right place for these pickles
by Kevin Ewoldt on Oct 11, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Picked off!
So close to a Pick 6. The 2 Panthers fans sitting watching with me are shitting themselves after that.
haha
Just got a funny retweet: “Portis steps up, fills in for Redskins leading rusher Hunter Smith”
by Kevin Ewoldt on Oct 11, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Delhomme sucks.
I’m glad it wasn’t us that gave him 20 mil guaranteed…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
No kidding.
That’s why I have no faith in this coaching staff… If we played a 3/4 it’d be different but he’s simply not a 4/3 outside linebacker.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
fletcher out
got our D out of sink. if he can get back out there i think we’ll be ok….blades leading the huddle is no good
Here
And of course, the moment I join in to see what’s happening Rak gave up a TD.
Sheesh!
But I think we win this thing.
That was a shitty call
Every tackle in the league lines up like that on third down
Every time
we didn’t get a 4th and short this season, the opposing team got fired up and killed us on the following drive. How many times will that happen before we stop saying “go for it”??
What I should have asked
Was why we continue to use zone if they’re clearly having success against it?
Im trying not to feel that way...
but it aint workin.
by burgundyNgold on Oct 11, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Skins will pull this one out...
Carolina and delhomme are terrible.
I think
all these injuries are fake so they can just get off the field and not be blamed for losing this game.
that was the right call
it sucks but it definitely hit westbrooks leg
so from now on
we can just carry a player into the punt receiver every time. You can SEE he did it on purpose
Why do these idiots on Fox keep talking about the rule of who touched it first, without mentioning that he was BLOCKED INTO THE RECEIVER!
Why don't players
Push defenders into the punt returner all the time if it isn’t interference? This seriously makes no sense whatsoever.
i have no idea what the rule is
but seems like bullshit call
by Burgundy and Gold on Oct 11, 2009 3:46 PM EDT reply actions
Didn't ARE call a fair catch??
And if so, no one was allowed to touch him. And yet, Westbrook was shoved into ARE which should be a penalty. Right?
should be
but in all sports this week the refs are taking some much needed time off
they need the extra time
to decide if they wanna run right or left.
by burgundyNgold on Oct 11, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
uhhh
skins have the 3 HARDEST schedule in the league (percentage-wise) from this point on…
3-13?
by burgundyNgold on Oct 11, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Can’t wait to draft another WR or defensive player.
by superjuan on Oct 11, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
MEANGELO HALL
YOU FUCKING IMBECILE!
Let the Halo power flow...
by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Oct 11, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
The worst thing
is all of the negative posts and comments that are gonna hijack Hogs Haven this week. I might have to go underground.
I think the worst thing...
Is the fact that we lost. But maybe that is just me.
No. That's not the worst thing.
The worst thing is this franchise.
By far.
It's all Dan Snyder's Fault
nope, I'd rather be silently rooting for a decent franchise
but at least the bad play gives you something to focus on instead of the fundamental franchise issues.
The Offensive Line is Snyder's Fault
Aaaarrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#$#%@%&?!!
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
losing Samuels
lost that game for us. But hey, we have Fred Davis. I believe Vinny’s words were “There wasn’t an O-lineman we liked in that spot.”
These broncos uniforms are a joke
So are KC uniforms
Better Cerrato draft pick performance today:
Fred Davis not getting that first down
or
Devin Thomas not pulling in that pass
The Offensive Line is Snyder's Fault
Seriously!
F*($#_* A, we should have
by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Oct 11, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Here we go KC...
Why do I feel like a turnover is coming for the cowboys? A pick six would really suck.
I came home early for this shit?!??!
those refs need to have their eyes ripped out!! they OBVIOUSLY aren’t using them. FCK!!!
I'm to young to Die Danny...don't make me do it tomorrow....
I didn’t watch the game, but these stats. stand out:
1) Our “supposedly improving” — according to preseason analysis posted here — young receivers/TE Thomas, Kelly, & Davis did absolutely squat again. I seriously wonder how in the hell whoever it was who kept saying that KelThomas were showing visible signs of improvement in the preseason said that, what a load of crap.
2) The Panthers smartly gave Cooley special attention on defense & held him to zero catches
3) Campbell’s completion%, QB rating was 73% & 104, Delhomme’s was 64% & 82
4) Campbell was sacked 5 times, Delhomme 3 times
5) Campbell’s YPA was 6.3, Delhomme’s was 7.2
6) The Panthers #2 receiver had more receptions than our #1
7) Redskins were 2-for-9 on 3rd downs, the Panthers were 4-for-12
8) Portis’s YPC was 3.0, DeAngelo Williams’s was 2.2 (Stewart’s was 3.9 but he is a steamroller, could start for many teams, & gets to come in when it’s ripe time for a big RB like him to trample tired tacklers – sorry for the alliteration)
My takeaway:
1) Malcolm Kelly, Devin Thomas, & Fred Davis are failures
2) It is pathetic that we are generating only 3 sacks with Haynesworth up front
3) Greg Blache is also part of the problem, his going into hiding from the media + inability to get the defense to maximize the abilities of our talented personnel is inexcusable
4) The O-Line is still a mess — I think Campbell could be a pretty great QB, his stats. are easily better than Delhomme’s and a good number of other decent staring QBs, but he is being forced to throw with a protection area the size of a NYC phone booth, and whoever called the game (is Zorn still caling it? or was Sherman Lewis in?) was probably too conservative at exactly the wrong times.
5) Blaming the refs is for losers unless it was a crucial, end-of-game play
My questions:
1) First I did not watch the game so my opinion is limited to the statistics I could examine
2) Any details on the safety?
3) Was King’s catch just a good catch, or was it blown/inadequate coverage?
Conclusion:
1) This is the 2nd winless team that we have lost to this season. Even after obtaining a 17-2 lead early in the 3rd quarter, we ended up losing the game. We need a new coach, now. Hiring Sherman Lewis does nothing to boost any confidence in Jim Zorn, who is easily the least capable in the NFC East, and by NFL standards a pathetic head coach. If anything really underscores that he is in over his head, this jump-start to another team with 0 wins should do that. We need a new coach. Now.
2) Blache also needs to be fired now. His insecurity is stymieing to me, and embelmatic of the fact that he can’t do his job, and is afraid of losing his temper and/or losing face if he is called out for not getting the job done.
3) We need to draft O-Line help the next draft. We are going to be last in the NFC East.
by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Oct 11, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions
It was a crucial, end of the game play
It led directly to 8 points. The ref couldn’t even explain their call properly.
sorry about the very long post
i just have alot of work on the weekend and can only post once or twice a day at most
by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Oct 11, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I am confused, "smutsboy 1"
can snyder explain things properly?, i’ve got a sentence that makes as much sense dude:
All green of skin. 800 centuries ago their bodily fluids include the birth of half-breeds. For the fundimental truth and self-determination of the cosmos. For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.
(it’s from Mars Attacks, but you get the point).
by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Oct 11, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
i meant for that to be funny, not an attack
by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Oct 11, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
oh wait NOW i get it, sorry i misunderstood
by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Oct 11, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
wait never mind, i don’t think i get it. i am going to stop talking.
by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Oct 11, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Not only that play, but the other scoring drive that the panthers put together started off with a long kick off return. The kick off return that was aided by 2 blatant holds on Devin Thomas. Not one ticky-tacky no call 2 GD blatant jersey pulling from the side holds.
Additionally there was a chance in the red zone that stalled on a play that should have been illegal contact or defensive holding in the end – zone. These refs were confused and unfit and it took points away from us and gave them to the panthers.
Campbell
You can do a lot of 5 yard passes and complete them and get your % up, and then score the occasional TD to get a good QB rating, but that does not make you a good QB
a. teams know that Campbell is hesitant to throw deep, so they stack the box so they can stop Portis.
b. teams know that when Campbell throw deep, he gets intercepted (like last week) so they stack the box to hope he try to throw a deep pass.
c. A 5 yd per pass attack is ok, until you hit that mistake (a miss 3rd down/a sack) which will force a 3rd and long, which Campbell is not capable of handling
d. throwing a 4 yd pass on a 3-6 is good for the QB rating, but makes you a bad QB, and we have about 50 of those already this season.
Last week, we test the opponent D and while Campbell threw 3 int, we won. Against Det and Car, we played it safe, the other team wait for our mistake and capitalised and we lost.
Campbell need to test the other team’s D, or we are not going to win
Can the revolution begin yet?
If you have season tickets and have the option- don’t renew. If you’re stuck and don’t want to eat your tickets, go to the rest of the games this year and have fun…but don’t buy any concessions. Sneak in as many paper bags and fire danny t-shirts as you can. Stop buying merchandise. Boo the team mercilessly. This is our team and they aren’t living up to our standards. This is a failure of the entire organization and none of them should be let off the hook. But the most important thing to do is to cease all financial support.
czAYANORA COACH zORNY
i’M STILL ECSTATIC, MY ANGELS BEAT THE RED SUX BANWGAON NATION!
Let the Halo power flow...
by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Oct 11, 2009 6:52 PM EDT reply actions
epitaph on Zohn's coaching tombstone
I was always a foot short
Why could it not be 1st and 9
3 – 3 yd passes does not equal a first down
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