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Boldly Hoping: WR

Been noticing a lot of posts that aren't directly related to the WR position turn into discussions centered around the WR issues for our beloved Skins. Can't say I blame any of you. Let's face it, we have a problem. No better place to start  than here for the latest in our hard-hitting, awe-inspiring, but most importantly, italicized Boldly Hoping series.

 

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We tend to love our running game in D.C., and rightfully so. We believe in it. Even when Mark Rypien was throwing bombs in '91, lighting up defenses with the long ball, we had one hell of a rushing tandem with Earnest Byner and Gerald Riggs. As exciting as the deep ball became during that season, watching Gibbs send in Ricky Ervins to change it up, and Gerald Riggs to pound it in near the goal line was the meat that stuck to your ribs as fans. The pride that players who have come through D.C. have taken in the running game, as well as the satisfaction the fans have enjoyed while cheering on the Terry Allens, Kelvin Bryants, Stephen Davis', Joe Washington's, etc. is what has defined Redskins football. Clinton Portis was a wet dream type of acquisition when he came here. But the balance between the air and ground attacks that makes you a contender has been inconsistent, even nonexistent at times. 

During last year's draft, we were all shocked when Vinny used all three 2nd round selections on pass catchers. Each of them were distinguished collegiate athletes. Each of them had unmistakable talent. Each of them came with question marks, and one year later, we still have questions.

Devin Thomas was the first one we took. What's not to love? (I had some awful slide show before...here is a somewhat choppy video that still shows off his skills.)


 

I thought, here is a guy who acts like a running back when he gets the ball. He has speed, strength, and size. He can be a true difference-maker on the opposite side of the field of Santana Clause.

 

Next came Fred Davis. Red-zone potential. Big body. But can he rush the passer? That was the only thing I could think of when we drafted him...still, his body of work was impressive.


 

 

Then we took Malcolm Kelly. Again, Vinny must have had the Kleenex box close by when he watched this video.

 

 

Another big, strong, proven wide receiver. Speed and durability were in doubt due to his offseason workouts and knee issues. But still, a red-zone threat for an offense that desperately needed one seemed like a real win for us.

In a very short span, Vinny had overhauled a position that had plagued us for a few straight seasons. How many of you remember watching games in Week 14, 15, 16 the previous few seasons wondering who that was going in motion? Signing guys off the street, or out of retirement to play the following week became rather commonplace. Was this group of rookies the answer?

6'2" 220

6'3" 250

6'3" 220

If you were capable of--for one second--forgetting that we were bad (historically, record-setting bad) at rushing the passer, you may have allowed yourself to get a little giddy about a trio of receivers with this kind of size and ability.

Then came the season. Thomas and Kelly never got out of the blocks in the preseason. Davis never got out of bed. Moss got off to a great start and when defenses focused on shutting him down, nobody emerged on the other side of the field.

Now, this oversimplifies and understates the problem, as well as omits other key factors in our offense's struggles, but the fact is if Kelly, Thomas or even Davis had emerged this season as reliable targets, it likely would have resulted in a playoff berth.

They didn't, and we didn't.

Where do we go from here? When do the highlight videos for these players include footage of them in Redskins' burgundy and gold? I have said it too many times, to the point where even I am sick of it, but it bears mentioning in this post that receivers do take 2-3 years--on average--to "break out". That is no guarantee these guys will, but it is a reason to boldly hope.

One year in the league, one year in the system, one year on the job should net some results. Assuming these guys are healthy, they need to be in the lineup. You'll hear this next thought repeated for other spots on this roster: Out with the old, in with the new. I worry that this team has had a tendency to play older guys simply because they are healthy, and simply because they are getting paid. I think Randle-El is a talented player that belongs in this league. I don't think he belongs on this team though. If Thomas and/or Kelly come into next season neck-and neck for the #2 job with Randle-El, the temptation to play the veteran will be overwhelming. I say remove the temptation (someone has to be willing to give us a draft pick for him, even a second day pick, right?). We already have a studly, smallish, elusive playmaking wideout in Santana Moss. If anything, bring in a middle-tier free agent receiver for insurance. I love what Yoder has done for our team. He will most likely be back. But it should be him on the inactive list week in and week out next season--not Davis.

Hey, these guys have to be healthy and they have to commit to learning how to be pros. That is some bold hoping indeed. But there could be a real payoff for us coming sooner rather than later. We absolutely HAVE to add an impact offensive lineman and and impact pass rusher in this year's draft. If we do, the window for this team may be getting ready to open.

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how about anquan boldin?

after that hissy fit yesterday im sure he’ll be walking after this season. worth pursuing?

by mmford10 on Jan 19, 2009 2:29 PM EST reply actions  

Trade?

He’s undercontract, I doubt if he’ll be released.
But yes, he would be a good addition
Boldin for Moss?

by dr WNC on Jan 19, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

That does sound like Danny

But unless Boldin can rush the passer or lead block on the counter trey, we can’t afford to give up our best receiver. Plus, whomever picks up Boldin will have to sign him to a new, mega-bucks deal (also sounds like Danny). We need that cap space for other positions.

Quick thought on Boldin: If he was on my team, he would take 10-15% of the snaps on offense at least. He can run, pass, and catch. I get that Kurt Warner is godly and why bother running the Wildcat when you have him throwing to Larry, Q, and Breaston. But I think Boldin is probably the best player in the league right now suited to the Wildcat, and on most other teams, would be behind center way more (or should be in my humble opinion.)

by Ken Meringolo on Jan 19, 2009 9:52 PM EST reply actions  

Randle El is just as much

If not better suited for the wildcat than Boldin. Let’s remember, Randle El was also a quarterback in college and was a lot better at it than Boldin. Boldin was a quarterback and wide receiver, Randle El was solely a quarterback and threw for 40 touchdowns in college (Jason Campbell threw for 45 TD’s hmmmm?). He WAS also a good punt returner, which means he HAD (and possibly still does, but hasn’t shown it) the ability to escape defenders and move like a running back, which is very important for running the wildcat. If we didn’t use him for the wildcat then we just won’t be using it. Boldin is obviously a better receiver, but Randle El is better suited for the wildcat, in my humble opinion.

by bigrm18 on Jan 20, 2009 3:18 AM EST up reply actions  

WTF?

So you guys have one of the best WR in football in Moss and a good number 2/3 guy in Randal El, are clearly lacking in a pretty big way at some other positions, but are ready to trade the ranch again to get Boldin – even though he looks to have some team chemistry issues?

I bet you can talk The Danny and Vinny into it. They are likely looking to you all for ideas.

by Wilbert Montgomery on Jan 20, 2009 11:13 AM EST reply actions  

Whoa

We are not advocating for a Boldin trade. We are especially not advocating getting rid of Moss. I am sorry if it looked that way. The point about Randle-El is simply that we may be able to acquire some value (draft pick-wise) to address precisely those needs at other spots on our team. I just thought I would mention how Boldin would be used if he were on my team.

If we were able to get a draft pick for Randle-El, and use it to pick up a player at another position of need, I think that would be a wise path to trod.

Plus, it would really force either Thomas or Kelly onto the field (which could be a really great thing, or a really bad thing.)

I would be ECSTATIC if Danny and Vinny decided not to open up the vault this offseason and instead focused on signing a few middle-tier free agents on the offensive line and at wide receiver to act as insurance in case the youngsters don’t pan out immediately.

Question for you Wilbert: What do you want this offseason? Specifically with regard to Donovan and Andy Reid.

by Ken Meringolo on Jan 20, 2009 12:07 PM EST reply actions  

Nice SMACK!

Sugar, good job handling Wilbert.

The Redskins need to address issues with PLAYERS, not big-name, high priced Free agents or Big splash trades.
They need to use the 4 remaining draft picks to choose the best players available and add “value” football players in FA.
Improve the Offensive system and evaluate the Defensive system for improvement and sustainability.
Philidelphia made the playoffs due to a fumble in KC! The Redskins on the other hand, can address their issues starting with playing better against teams which they should beat: (2008 Detriot, Cleveland, Cinci, St Louis, SF) and control their own destiny for a run to the Super Bowl.

by dr WNC on Jan 20, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

QB

Am I the only one who thinks we need to start talking about a different QB?

MattyK

by MattyK_Hail_Skins on Jan 21, 2009 11:26 AM EST reply actions  

Probably ...

I think we are sticking with JC for a while more. Give him more than one year in a system, at the very least. Besides, we have a decent back up being groomed anyway, who I don’t think is ready to start, but is there to push JC. I think QB is a done deal for now.

by matthiasstephan on Jan 21, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm more worried

About Zorn as a play caller than Campbell as a QB. As we saw last year, Zorn did not adjust his offense to the defenses of the NFL, even thought the defenses obviously adjusted to our offense. I’m hoping that we have a lot more in the playbook but just haven’t implemented it because we’re in our first year of the offense. If not, then Jason Campbell and the offense is going to stall as well next year and we’re going to be in the basement of the NFC East again!

by bigrm18 on Jan 21, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

campbell has gotten better each year

and has played in a new system each year. He’s shown enough, IMO, to get an extension.

by artmonk4ever on Jan 22, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

ok ok

I guess I’m hust sick of saying “next year” Its starting to get old. I need Zorn genius to dummy down a little bit. He had like 26 run formations in his first year. KISS- keep it simple stupid is the way to go. I also need Zorn to incourage JC to be more aggressive. I don’t care if he throws a few INT’s just sling it every once in a while Jason. I’m really looking forward to 2009-10 regardless. HAIL SKINS!

MattyK

by MattyK_Hail_Skins on Jan 22, 2009 12:51 PM EST reply actions  

Randel El and 2nd RD pick for Boldin. Makes perfect sense for both sides. Randel El played for Wisenhunt in Pitt and would fit in nice with Fitz and Preaston. Redskins get Boldin with Moss, Thomas and Kelly.

by BrunoNJ on Jan 24, 2009 2:20 PM EST reply actions  

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