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Yahoo Sports phones one in

I'm extremely uncomfortable attacking the content of traditional media since their product is the result of professional work whereas mine is usually garbled nonsense that less often than not makes a damn bit of sense. I'm especially uncomfortable doing so when there is an actual name attached to a professional media product, since now I am anonymously (would you believe Skin Patrol isn't my real name? - Will Allensworth) attacking someone else's hard work. Fortunately this Yahoo Sports! article, which I am probably taking far too much umbrage from, is anonymous and thus gets derision from me without as much reservation. The premise is simple enough:

Here's a complete list of the decision makers with each team that will have the most influence during the NFL draft process.
At the risk of contradicting myself shortly, although conceptually there isn't anything difficult to ingest from the above, the idea that anyone can know with great certainty who the single decision maker is with an NFL franchise -- and said franchises are notorious for secrecy and obscurity in such decisions, some moreso than others (see: Redskins) -- is a bit aggressive, in my opinion. It is also, for the most part, unproductive; the labor of hundreds of individuals goes into determining which of many young college athletes an NFL franchise selects and identifying Individual X as the decider may speak towards accountability, but it doesn't tell us much about the process under which decisions are made or help predict that ultimate choice.

Whether this is a worthwhile endeavor aside, I don't even agree with their conclusion:

Washington Redskins: Dan Snyder, owner
As has consistently been the case since he bought the team in 1999, the Redskins do not have a full complement of draft picks.
Only Jerry Jones (Dallas) and Mike Brown (Bengals) were likewise distinguished among the 32 teams as owners who make those decisions.

I disagree that Dan Snyder has the most influence over who the team selects in the draft. Redskins Nation's collective experience this offseason has been that it belongs to Vinny Cerrato. My word need not be taken for this fact, for instance:

The Washington Redskins today named Vinny Cerrato to the new position of Executive Vice President/Football Operations. He will assume responsibility for all aspects of the team's football organization - including personnel, the team roster, scouting and salary cap management.

"The appointment formalizes the structure the team has operated under in recent years, and is recognition of the valuable role Vinny has played this season, especially during a time of terrible tragedy," said team Owner Daniel M. Snyder...

Joe Gibbs, who recently retired after four years as Head Coach and Team President added, "Vinny worked closely with me on all personnel matters. This is a well-deserved acknowledgement of that."

"Today's Washington Redskins roster is a testament to Vinny and the personnel department being an integral part of our team structure in identifying players, whether acquired in free agency, the draft or on sometimes very short notice as we made our way through the season," Gibbs said....

If I was forced to select a single individual who I thought decided the Redskins draft picks, it would be Cerrato over Snyder. However, I think as relates to this team, that effort (in trying to single out said individual) is especially pointless since the heirarchy isn't clear all the time. Sometimes I think Dan Snyder makes decisions. Last year I thought Joe Gibbs made most of the decisions. Vinny Cerrato has been here for years, though, certainly influencing the direction of the team on any number of manners, including the draft.

Regarding the later charge, that the Redskins don't have a full complement of draft picks, while technically true it is extremely misleading. If by "full complement of draft picks" the article really literally means a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th round pick, then sure, that's true; I imagine that's true of most teams, actually. For instance, in 2000 the poor Redskins didn't have a full complement of draft picks as defined above, since they had to settle for two 1st rounders without any 2nd round picks (they also had an additional 7th rounder). In 2002, the team lacked a 4th round pick, though it did have two 3rd round picks, two 5th round picks, and two 7th rounders.

Likewise this year we lack a 4th rounder... but we have two picks in the 3rd round. I'd rather pick at 96th than 119th (pick Denver has from us) though and hardly think that our lack of a 4th rounder qualifies us as the type of team lacking a full contingent of picks. We're loaded with picks, at least relative to recent years. Compare this with the near gushing praise of another team:

Cleveland Browns: Phil Savage, general manager
Hired in January 2005, Savage's most impressive draft selection to date with the Browns might be Braylon Edwards.
Aren't the Browns without a pick until the 4th round?

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Another Example of the National Media
Hating on the Skins.

Most often then not national media is fairly accurate in their assessments. Where I think they go wrong is they make blanket assumptions, state the obvious & either don't go out on a limb or say something ridiculous just to be a head turner.

Unfortunately the 'Skins are a model of "what not to do" in free agency. Dan Snyder gets the brunt of that blame, and himself a polarizing figure that garners much attention. The only way that the hating will stop is when we win on a constant basis.

by CptChaosSidekick on Apr 8, 2008 2:12 PM EDT   0 recs

Good Take!
Normally, I go after these types of lack luster stories...it seems to me the "national media" takes it leads from the Washington Post and Times, while very good up to date information is available from the local sources it seems it is tainted slightly negative toward Danny and Vinny. Which until they build a history is easy to do based on history, that's where optimism comes into play.
The Redskins are flying under the radar this year, which has me very excited about the possibilities.  

by dr WNC on Apr 8, 2008 3:55 PM EDT   0 recs

I apologize if this should be a diary
but it doesn't seem to warrant it, so I'll post it here.  What are your guys' thoughts on:

Redskins possible draft day trade

Redskins trade #51 and next years 1st rounder to Denver for the #12 pick,

and

Redskins trade #21 to Denver for #42 and next years 2nd rounder.

Thoughts?  I'm thinking that as long as no one trades ahead of Denver for him, DE Derrick Harvey should be there at #12.  Denver meanwhile has ZERO interest in hanging out at #12, but would like to target a KR in the first round, namely DeSean Jackson.  It also seems to me, that since Washington pretty much has starters figured out everywhere, DE is one of the few positions that would be worth a first round pick, and that the team would have to feel like they are bound to do better next year, so they are essentially buying low and selling high by trading draft picks next year.  The addition of the deal for the second rounder helps insure the deal a little bit for both teams, since Denver can target Earl Bennett and the Redskins add another 2nd day pick that will be valuable if the deal goes not-as-planned.

Plus, its been a while since we had a nice friendly WAS-DEN trade. :)

by styg50 on Apr 8, 2008 4:20 PM EDT   0 recs

I'd vote no
on Redskins moving to #12 and I'd at least consider the second trade though would have to invest some more time looking at mock drafts through the 2nd round.

by Skin Patrol on Apr 8, 2008 4:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I have a ton of work into a bigboard
and while it is no substitute for your independent evaluation and judgement, I think the Redskins could have a pivotal first day in the draft with this trade:

#12 DE Derrick Harvey

No pick in the second

#84 WR Jordy Nelson, has sure hands, good size, great route running potential and a lot of experience doing tough work over the middle.  Line him up and watch your speedsters get open deep while the seam becomes Cooley's playground.

#96 FS Craig steltz/SS Jamaar Adams.  Adams is more of a sure thing, but he is a box strong safety, and you guys already have Landry.  Steltz has a ton of potential, but would need time to break in slow.

Day#2 The deepest oline draft in years is bound to have some gems for you guys.  Oline is Denver's need as well, so I have looked at a ton of guys through the fourth and fifth rounds and beyond, but I don't look too hard at guys who aren't zoneblockers, and I'm not sure what kind of offensive linemen the Redskins are looking for.

There is bound to be something though...

by styg50 on Apr 8, 2008 5:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The Mile High Report!
is like the stranger that offers you candy that your parents worn you about.

by CptChaosSidekick on Apr 8, 2008 5:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Why is it so easy
to imagine this van peeling out and driving away every time I try to get close to it???

by styg50 on Apr 8, 2008 5:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I suppose that'd be a fine draft
but it assumes a lot of things; that Jordy Nelson and others are available where you say they'll be. It also ignores a key part of the equation, namely that 2009 1st round pick.

by Skin Patrol on Apr 8, 2008 5:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

No no no
You've got it all wrong.  You're not supposed to consider the value of the 1st rounder next year...

(shuffles next years 1st rounder under shell)

See here?  Look at this nice pretty #12!  Yum yum!

(they may be on to me...)

by styg50 on Apr 8, 2008 5:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd say
65% chance Jordy would be there.  100% chance of one safety or the other being there.  80% chance of Harvey being there, drops to 1% if Carolina hears about this deal.

(So let's just keep it our little secret, K?  None of the big bad cats need to know about this.  Ooh, what this?  A lollipop!!  This is for people who are GOOD at keeping secrets!)

by styg50 on Apr 8, 2008 5:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

100% chance
I'll reject a lollipop that's not of the Blow-Pop variety.

by CptChaosSidekick on Apr 8, 2008 6:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I strongly oppose
any trade(s) involving our 1st rd pick unless that means we're getting Chris Long DE Virginia!

by CptChaosSidekick on Apr 8, 2008 5:00 PM EDT   0 recs

Glad you pointed this out
I remember reading this article the other day and thinking how utterly pointless and misinformed most of the points were....
Bleeding Green Nation Philadelphia Eagles Blog

by JasonB on Apr 9, 2008 10:39 AM EDT   0 recs

Bleeding Green Nation can't agree with Hogs Haven
are they trying to change the balance of the universe?

by CptChaosSidekick on Apr 9, 2008 10:44 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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