Florio: Redskins may have tampered
I don't think this story is remotely close to having legs yet as there isn't any indication that the team illegally discussed anything with Chad Johnson, but it should get noted anyways. In two posts at PFT Mike Florio accuses the Redskins of tampering in strong language. First:
Here’s our take on all of this — the Bengals should be very concerned about the possibility of tampering. The Redskins have enjoyed over the years a very strong relationship with Drew Rosenhaus, Johnson’s agent. And it is believed by some league observers that Chad’s campaign to be traded arose not from his zeal to wear a new uniform but from his desire to stuff more money into his pockets.
Thus, if the Redskins were willing to make such a strong and specific offer for Johnson, it’s hard not to think that they have an idea as to the contract extension that Johnson (via Rosenhaus) would accept.
And that, of course, would be tampering.
And we continue to be (more) concerned that tampering might be occurring with Johnson. Even if the ‘Skins aren’t directly talking to agent Drew Rosenhaus, the fact that the Washington Post knows that the team is ready to pay Johnson $21 million in guaranteed money strongly suggests that the team is putting this information out there in the hopes of continuing to stoke the “I want out” fire that has escalated into an inferno.
In our opinion, what the Redskins apparently are doing is 1000 times worse than the conduct that formed the basis for the Bears tampering allegations against the 49ers. In our opinion, the Bengals should file tampering charges against the Redskins today, if for no reason other than to get the Redskins to back off.
I'm not that familiar with the league's tampering rules. But recall what got the 49ers in such hot water with the Bears, not too long ago:
Following a detailed investigation and a hearing, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has determined that the San Francisco 49ers violated the league’s anti-tampering policy last season by contacting linebacker Lance Briggs’ agent without the Bears’ permission...
The Bears had filed tampering charges against the 49ers to initiate the proceeding. Briggs, whose contract expired following the 2007 season, agreed to a six-year extension with the Bears March 1, the second day of this year’s free agency period.
What that tells me is first and foremost, the Bengals have to allege tampering before the Redskins can ever be accused of it. Second, whether the Redskins did or didn't "tamper" is a factual matter totally irrespective of whether or not Mike Florio thinks "what the Redskins apparently are doing is 1000 times worse than the conduct that formed the basis for the Bears tampering allegations against the 49ers." Tampering is an NFL rule violation, not a violation of Mike Florio's Personal Moral Compass. And it will apparently depend on whether and to what extent the Redskins contacted Chad Johnson (which is, again, a factual matter totally irrespective of the wrongness or blameworthiness of what the Redskins did per Mike Florio).
I hope there was no tampering. I don't see any indication from the Bengals or any other league source that there was tampering, though reader(s) are all encouraged to keep their eyes open.
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Since the National Media
isn’t fond of the redskins this could be some sort of witchhunt, by some ass trying to stir up some bullshit.
But I can tell you if we were proven to do this and loose a pick, I’ll be looking for the nearest wall to punch.
by CptChaosSidekick on
Apr 22, 2008 2:28 PM EDT
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I like what Mike Florio
does at PFT, though a lot of people don’t. He’s a rumor monger in every sense of the word but throws just enough shit on the wall for some to stick. He is also a major aggregator, which is why I like his site so much. He’s also a lawyer, so understands the nuances of some of the league rulings to a greater degree than people like me.
That said, for all the respect I have for Florio, his unilateral proclamation that the Redskins have tampered doesn’t worry me… yet. He is famously moral-me-me-me-monster in that there’s little an NFL player, team, or representative can do that won’t draw his ire. That Florio is the first person to accuse the Redskins of wrongdoing in Re: Chad Johnson is hardly surprising, but it was at least worth noting.
I hope (and sincerely believe) that he’s wrong in this case.
by Skin Patrol on
Apr 22, 2008 2:48 PM EDT
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All of this Stuff
And the bottom line is all the Johnson talk is not going away, someone once said
Redskins perpetually interested in Chad Johnson
In January, all the experts knew Lance Briggs was going to be a Redskin…a lot of talk because not much going on football sports day, until the draft rumours will be all over the place some will prove out to be accurate, others will not.
Overall, this is sit back and relax week as something REAL is happening this weekend and no matter how you look at it or what goes down the REDSKINS should have at least 4 or 5 picks, maybe even 2 on the first day.
by dr WNC on
Apr 22, 2008 4:01 PM EDT
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Ok....
so, the whole story here, is that some writer thinks the Redskins are worse than Hitler because they leaked Ocho Cinco’s potential contract terms to the press?
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
by DbacksSkins on
Apr 22, 2008 6:33 PM EDT
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For the most part
yes, but I think what Florio is suggesting is more than just leaking a potential contract to the press. Tampering would require that we actually communicated inappropriately with Drew Rosenhaus. Although Florio may disagree with the tactic, as far as I can tell there isn’t anything illegal about Team X leaking to the media what they would potentially pay another team’s player, if they could get him.
I think what Florio was suggesting is that the Redskins did get into contact with Johnson inappropriately, did reach contract terms with him, and then leaked the information to Jason at the Washington Post. That would be a theory that would suggest tampering. I also find that theory COMPLETELY bogus.
by Skin Patrol on
Apr 22, 2008 7:43 PM EDT
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No, I mean I got what Florio was suggesting,
I just don’t quite understand where he gets the idea, seeing as how it’s entirely conjecture, and then he goes off about how leaking the terms of the contract extension they’d give Johnson is worse than the 49ers ACTUALLY AND DEMONSTRABLY BREAKING THE TAMPERING RULES. He then decides that the Bengals should file tampering charges, NOT because the ‘Skins are actually guilty at all, but to get them to stop expressing interest.
It’s like the Redskins happened to be driving by Florio’s house when it was burglarized, so naturally, he draws his own conclusions and decides that the ‘Skins must have robbed his house.
"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."
by DbacksSkins on
Apr 22, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
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I totally agree
An investigation that yields evidence that the 49ers actually tampered is somehow not as bad as his presumption that the Redskins are tampering. I wouldn’t have reached that conclusion, but then again Florio reaches a lot of conclusions I wouldn’t have reached.
by Skin Patrol on
Apr 23, 2008 1:12 AM EDT
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Tamper away
Tamper with my wide receiver, please! I mean, seriously, can’t you guys rid us of this meddlesome malcontent?
Straight up, you’d get a baller who probably has at least five or six all-pro years in him. Your leading receiver caught like 66 balls last year- a tight end, I think, and Chad’s caught over 80 for five or six years straight. You guys have an owner who gets s* done- even if sometimes it may be the wrong s*, who isn’t afraid to open his wallet. You guys were in the playoffs last year and show no signs of dropping from that level. When Chad’s happy, he’s the hardest working player in the league. He used to sleep down at Paul Brown Stadium several nights a week during the season just to watch film into the wee hours. I can’t say for sure what soured him here, probably a combination of inept ownership, a too lax coach, and his being a little too high-strung for his own good. All in all, he is worth the offer you guys made- just not to us anymore.
As far as tampering goes, if anybody’s doing anything ethically tenuous around this entire fiasco, dollars to donuts say it’s that pondscum agent, Rosenhaus.
by IgnatiusJReilly on
Apr 26, 2008 2:01 AM EDT
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