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Random thoughts on JC, the NFC East, etc.

I just shot out an email to a reader that ended up taking more space up than I have the time for right now given real life responsibilities. Since I went to all the trouble of sending the email, and because I think it addresses some issues of concern for Redskins fans generally, I'm going to post it here. Cheers to the reader who sent it to me as he was the one to originally raise the issues that got me thinking, typing, and ranting. I'm tied up until tomorrow more likely than not despite the fact that important things are happening. I apologize for that. (Though you could mitigate the lack of content substantially by, for instance, reading or posting diaries, such as this one by mmford.)

Feel free to treat this thread as a general discussion of all things Redskins related, as that is the direction that my email takes. Enjoy, or don't:

I've been hesitant to this point to declare that this or that year is going to define Jason Campbell for precisely some of the reasons mentioned; that he's had to deal with new offensive coordinators throughout. Add in that he is young, or more importantly was younger in year's past, and it just hasn't come to the point where I have said "200_ will decide whether he is the future." I'm ready to say that 2008 will be that year.

If JC can't learn this offensive system and succeed under it in his 4th season in the league, then he might not be the future of this particular franchise. Under current ownership the tendency has been for new leadership rather than continuity, especially on offense. Knowing that, this team requires either an adaptable or veteran quarterback to succeed. I say that because it is just too much to ask given what has happened in Washington under Snyder to say that we'll have 4-5 years of solid continuity on the offensive side of the ball. Saunders lasted two years, and he's about as storied and competent an offensive coordinator as exists in the NFL. If that's the limit to how much time he can get, that's pretty much the Washington standard.

Yea, we'll need a new veteran [quarterback to backup Campbell]. The problem is that we won't have much money to spend. I think JC should be fine and will adapt to the new season admirably enough to win, hopefully, a few games. It will be interesting to see which side of the ball regresses the most (and I'm admitting here that I think it's unlikely we improve defensively and offensively in '08, if only because that's a rare occurrence generally speaking) and to what extent heads will roll as a result.

Like you said, we're now in the same division as the World Champion Giants, a Cowboys team that only lost three games (though one to us, admittedly), and a well coached and managed Philly team that has proven incapable of failure for two successive years in recent memory. Someone has to finish 4th in the NFC East, that someone isn't going to make the playoffs more likely than not, and by all indications that someone might just be us. It's tough betting against either the Cowboys or the Giants this early based exclusively on what they did last year, and the Eagles are historically tough to push to the bottom of the East. That does not bode well for us.

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I'm going to disagree...
but only slightly.  A QB has to be given time in a particular system before he can reasonably be expected to produce.  Going from the Saunders system to a West-Coast type of system is going to be a difficult transition.  I think that we can expect consistency from JC this year... but that consistency will have to include the typical screw-ups/miscomminications/flat out mistakes that come with a change in offensive philosophy and systems.

There's a reason Gruden goes for veteran QBs (Gannon, Garcia, Plummer, Brad Johnson) in his version of the West Coast.  This system, more than any other (in my own opinion) currently run in the NFL, relies on the QB to know everything that is going on during every play.  There's a reason that some of the greatest QBs (Montana, Young, Farve) have come from this system.  

But it doesn't come easy.

by TexSkins on Feb 4, 2008 7:20 PM EST reply actions  

Also...
Yahoo! links to the Sporting News's Final Power Poll and all 4 NFC East teams are in the top 14.  The Giants (1), the Cowboys (6), and the Redskins (12) were all playoff teams and the Eagles (14) finished a disappointing season by still getting to 8-8.

Should be yet another dogfight in '08.

by TexSkins on Feb 4, 2008 10:47 PM EST reply actions  

My 2 Cents
I agree that the 4th year of a QB is supposed to be the "make or break" one however in Campbell's case I have to give him some slack. I wont go into details b/c we all know how many systems he's been through and what that can do to a young QB. This kid has all the physical tools and he's mentally "there" so we don't have to worry about that.

West Coast Offense pro's: O'line wont have to block as long w/ all thoese 3 step drops. More roll outs, at one point led QB's in rushing. Not a Steve Young but can make plays w/ his legs.

West Coast con's: Campbell has a long delivery and will need some good coaching to change his mechanics. Have to get thoese timing routes down. Of course the "new language" that's the west coast offence.

A good sign?

Redskin coaching blunders are well documented. However last offseason we let our LB's coach go after a bad year and we were pleasantly rewarded w/ great LB play. Now LB and QB are clearly diffrent but maybe the front office are making better decsions. I'd like to see what Zorn can do w/ him. Let's not forget he needs weapons around him as well. I'm not convinced that we can function w/ 2 small recievers. Moss'giving up on plays has me worried to..

by CptChaosSidekick on Feb 5, 2008 7:27 AM EST reply actions  

Long have I bemoaned
Santana running any routes but fly, post, and post corner.  He catches the ball as he is falling (purposely) to the ground.  In a west coast system, your WRs MUST ALWAYS look to get YAC (of course, they have to have the mental awareness to catch the ball first).  Randle El is tough, and doesn't mind contact, and Cooley's deceptive speed allows him to be a 4th or 5th WR when no TE is needed.  Anthony Mix will need to show up big time.  Thrash is a role player, but he will go over the middle all day, as will (what is his name?) the Rookie WR we had last year that impressed in preseason with tough catches (and I think made the roster this season though he played little)...well anyway.

The one thing that I am praying will happen with the implementation of the WC offense is that Brandon Lloyd can earn as least one game check this season-he's back in a system that he's more accustomed to.

Oh, I forgot all about Reche Caldwell.  He's not scaring anyone, but he has some speed and he has some years left in those legs (I think he's 27 or 28).  I hope we signed him for 3 years...

by JustinU804 on Feb 5, 2008 9:58 AM EST reply actions  

You were thinking of...
Mike Espy. I think Brandon Loyd is gone for many reasons. Reche Caldwell will be offered a salary that the Redskins will not compete with he'll be gone. In my oppion he was under utilized. Don't know much about Mix except he's got size. I stated in my previous post about my issues with Moss. Him falling down purposely is becoming quite common among today's wr's. I guess I understand about trying to preserve their bodies but I don't like it. Take a look at some Monk footage, that's how it's supposed to be done! Sanders and Clark (same size as Moss) didn't do that.

Randel El is a good slot man, Cooley is guaranteed to make the catch and break ATLEAST one tackle. We haven't had a good Wr tandom since the '99 season w/ Westbrook and Connel. We need a tall possesion type Wr to open things up.

by CptChaosSidekick on Feb 5, 2008 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Byner is
BACK! Awesome. I think he has the respect of many on the roster, which is an absoulte must these days. This is a big positive step in the right direction in my eyes.  

by CptChaosSidekick on Feb 5, 2008 10:41 AM EST reply actions  

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