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[Note by TexSkins, 10/22/08 2:33 PM CDT ] Bumped, with some editing. Make a good fan post, make the front page. It's like a carrot. Only not at all.

Oh, and check out the tags. Look at the good I do.

First thing first great game sunday!!

 You got to admit except you die hart Redskins fans that expect to go 16-0 or 14-2 every year, when looking at the schedule in the beginning of the season 5-2 didn't look so good. But here we are!!!!

 Defense stepped up like they have been all season. The offense started to find it's rhythm in the second half largely because of CP (Clinton Portis) my vote so far for league M.V.P! The punts weren't  that bad, I've  seen better but I can live with what I saw Sunday. Even Randle EL and Moss manage  to get some kind of positive yards on punt returns!

Now that  im on that subject, one thing that has been burning  inside of me for a while is the punting game!

Now for a couple of weeks the big deal was how poorly our 'ROOKIE" punter has been playing.  And I emphasize on the fact that he is a rookie because had Durant Brooks played QB or WR we would be using the wait and see approach that the Redskins always like to do! We don't see everyone getting bent out of shape because Colt Brennan  and Devin Thomas aren't racking up the stats! ( Now I know that's a stretch but you'll see my point)

Now why we wasted a draft pick on a punter and got rid of a better punter for this rookie in the first place is a totally different story ( You dont draft punters you find them on someone else team or on the free agent pool like our punter now!!!!!)

Now while everyone was ragging on the punter and deservingly  so, we all forgot about the punt returner!

Now Randle El is a great player. Early in his career  and back in college and im sure also a lot in high school he was a dangerous returner, but he hasn't had a decent  run back in a couple of years . Well at least not since joining  the Redskins. Now i"m not knocking him because when he's not moving the chains with big 3rd down conversions, he's catching the tough balls across the middle. He is a BIG part of our offense and at times he's the leading receiver  in the game.

Now i'm not big on letting key players or starters take their licks on punt returns unless he's getting the job done!!

Now I  know what you are thinking Deion Sanders played a key role on defense  for many teams even our team and also was a big time returner. Reggie Bush is another star player that takes on that double role for the Saints. But they were getting the job done .

When I mean getting the job done I mean getting some yards for the offense. It's like where ever the ball lands or is caught that's where the play ends!

Now I know every team can't have a punt returner like the Bears, but your talking to someone that was spoiled enough to enjoy watching the guy that Devin Hester is chasing in becoming the best punt/kick returner in NFL history Brain Mitchell!!

Brain Mitchell was a man on a mission. He was going to get every yard that he could get and when it look like there wasn't anymore yards he got a couple more yards. Now I know its unfair of me to compare the two, but it's like having a Joe Montana for so long, your always looking for your Steve Young. In this case its been over 5-6 years since we had our Montana.

Deion Sanders was one of my examples of guys who are playmakers who at any given  time he can change the game with a run back or putting his team in great field position. But even the great "Neon Deion" while on the burgundy and gold didn't run one back, if you recall the only punt return for six points was ran by .. you guessed  it  B. Mitch.

Randle El came to D.C with the same type of fear from the rest of the league, that at any given  moment he can take it to the house for six!!

But lets face it he isn't getting it done. Good news for him he can still catch and unlike Durant Brooks he still has a job!

So how did they try and fix the problem.....Santana Moss.....what?!?!?!?

When I first heard that the Redskins were considering a change at the punt returner position I thought wow finally  the coaching staff and I were on the same wave length! So when said that it would be between Santana Moss or Devin Thomas I said okay the ideal choice would be Thomas. Big, Fast, not the teams #1 franchise wide out etc.... ( not yet at least) Let's face it the kid got flash! He could turn into that game changer in time.Every time he gets  the ball (not enough times) he is making people miss in open space,  on a catch or a reverse.

I don't know why he doesn't get the ball enough? Maybe its his two or three penalties  he's had so far this season? But you need that kind of aggressiveness  to be crazy enough to take on flying bodies running down the field to take your head off all a while you wait for the ball to fall into your hands. The last thing on your mind is getting up field for some yards, but you have to!

I realy don't know why he doesn't get more involved in the offense? Maybe its because he's not Santana Moss or Randle El status ? (yet)  Even more reason why you wouldn't want either Randle El or Moss back there exposed to an injury.

Why not take a chance with the rookie? Look at Phily with DeSean Jackson, we all know what he can do! I see the same kind of spunk and flash in Thomas. I mean if we can't get him the ball on offense why not on punt returns? It's not like there will be any drop off in yards due to the change.

You probably  thought I was next going to say to bring back B Mitch to run back kicks like the good old days, the way I was talking about him. Now as much as I would love to bring  him  back (La Varr  Airrington too!)  I can't. But one guy that  kinda fits the mold of B Mitch and almost has the same number.. yes you called it #31 Rock Cartwright!!!  Another guy who won't see the time of day during the offense series. Do you blame him with CP, Betts, Moss, Randle El and Cooley all on the field. Even a league MVP former Td recored holder can't get on the field. 

So why not put Rock back there? He is already running the Skins into good field position on kickoffs why not on punts? B Mitch did them both and Rock has the same body frame as B Micth and he really loves to play the game of football. He loves to be a Redskin and it shows when he plays special teams.

It always puzzles me when a team puts different players on kickoffs and punt returns. If one guy is doing a good job on one its almost a given he will do the same at the other spot.

So when I saw Moss back returning punts in the game on sunday I almost lost my mind! I was swearing left and right because thats the type of Skins fan I am, I give a crap about what happens in the long run and not about that one play. I don't want to mortgage  the franchise top wideout and cowboy killer Santana Moss with a possible injury.

Once again I know that Moss was deadly in college at "The U " returning kicks. I grew up watching him, Randle El and Portis in college and at one time or another said the same thing about them "I wish they would one day play for the Washington Redskins" but never really thought it would happen BUT IT DID!!! So I know what he can do back there, but I also know what he can do on offense. So lets leave it at that!!Please tell me I'm not the only one that thinks this way?

Either way you go Thomas or Rock you can't lose. You got the blue collar hard nose special teamer in Cartwright or you go with the flashy cocky rookie with speed that will burn you for six. They both share the same, they can produce more then we are already getting and more importantly the are not Santana Moss!

Now after all that we all know whats going to happen next, Randle El or Moss are going to take one back 80 yards and I'll be the first  to say that I was wrong! 

 Go Redskins!

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Nice post...

one thing I would say, about the PR situation, is that there are no good options outside of Moss and ARE. Thomas is not DeSean Jackson, which is to say he is not a smaller, faster WR who can make people miss. He’s a bigger target that uses his body to shield defenders.

Rock might be an option, but now that he’s the 2nd RB, I’d be hesitant. Somebody like a Tryon might be better suited. I know nothing about his return capability or experience… I’m just saying. There is no Brian Mitchell on this roster.

As for the punter, Frost had been challenged for his spot in the past. Which is to say, he wasn’t all that great. Taking a flier on a punter in the 6th round is no big deal… the onus is on Brooks for not getting the job done. Now, maybe he really is hurt, in which case I hope he comes back and proves all of us (read: me) wrong. I’m not going to lose sleep over the punter situation, especially with Plack’s performance on Sunday.

Anyway, welcome and great post. Keep ’em coming.

Yes, I am a nerd.

by TexSkins on Oct 22, 2008 3:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok your right, Devin Thomas isn’t a smaller guy with speed he’s a bigger guy with speed! Isn’t that better? Not only can he hurt you with his speed he can hurt you with his size. Please if you get the chance to watch last weeks game over watch the play when moss takes the punt I think its in the 3rd quarter but man did Devin lay a hit on that play! Thats what im talking about the kid is tough and fast!

Now about Rock, I know he was the 2nd RB last week but thats just becuse if coach Zorn would of put his boy in first then he would have to answer all those questions over and over again about Alexander. He kind of had to put Rock in 1st out of respect to Rock for all the years he’s busted his butt for this team. But don’t fool your self this game and everyother game untill Betts comes back the leagues former MVP will be CP’s back up… watch and see!!!!!!

by Rafael Lopez D.C sports fan on Oct 22, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Punter

As a rookie, he could have been given more an opportunity and maybe he will be given another chance next year. A lot of teams seem to be having punter issues this year so to take a chance with a late round pick seems like an ok idea.
On punt returns:
Rock did perform this duty in the past a little with not much better results than ARE.
It appears to me the Redskins are thinking and making changes like a team who can win now, while Tryon maybe able to do the job he could hurt the team with his inexperience and the Redskins are not taking chances right now…maybe after they have 10 wins and a playoff spot locked up but for now no reason to change anything just keep winning.

by dr WNC on Oct 22, 2008 3:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

ARE seems cautious with his returns… and with how the offense is running, that might not be a bad thing.

Yes, I am a nerd.

by TexSkins on Oct 22, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your right as long as you are winning who cares? I care because the last time we won over 10 games it was over ten years ago when we had a real threat back there returning punts and who was that you ask? yes your right again B. Mitch! Now if I had to pick between Tyron or Thomas I got to go with the faster and stronger of the two and the guy that is more game ready right now and thats Thomas! Tyron isn’t ready for that role just think what everyone will say if he were to fumble the game away!!

by Rafael Lopez D.C sports fan on Oct 22, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

need help

The more important question is what is wrong with this team. Why did they struggle vs two bad teams the last two weeks. Glad I did not pick them. They need to score more points like they did against Dallas and Philly. My pick is they bounce back this week and win by two TD’s, Portis goes for 140 yrds 2 tds himself. Get all my picks and predictions
Enjoy

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by ctsportspicks on Oct 22, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Besides the three super bowl teams there is nothing different with this Redskins team then all the other skins team in the past! When they pkay a good team and its a good year for the skins they playy over there limits and pull out a suprise win or lose by a point or two ( the latter one being more common! ) now when they play a bad team or a team that they should beat , they normally fold and play down to thier level and more often then not lose to the team they should beat! Now when its a bad year for us we just lose ! We lose to the team we are suposse to beat to and get killed by the teams we are suppose to lose to! Now this week will show us what kind of team this is, a contender or the same old redskins! now this week we play the lions (we own the lions) my pick win by 30 and Portis runs over 200 yards if he gets to play that much. Looks like #4 this year!!!!!

by Rafael Lopez D.C sports fan on Oct 22, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's weird

how the skins can come out and barely eek by one week against a great team, and then go out the next week and barely loose to a crappy team, then barely eek by again against another crappy team. I’ve felt that the Skins tend play to the level of their opponents for a long time now. On good days they play just above it. On not so good days they play just below it.

It also seems like the skins just can’t break the long one. For all Portis’ bad ass playing, he hasn’t broken a long run for a TD in ages. Same same with Moss and El when catching bombs. Every week I see it happen on other teams. Just not for the skins. It was such a breath of fresh air to see Santana take the bomb to the house a few weeks ago.

TTB!

by Ach on Oct 22, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look what happened to Bush returning a punt

Don’t put star players to return kicks. It’s just not that important if you’re a good team and you’re not giving up crazy returns.

by hibachi on Oct 22, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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