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Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon can see into the future, apparently

Ryan Wilson at AOL Fanhouse has a video of Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon discussing the recent death of Sean Taylor. They cover a pretty large range, so I don't want to limit their discussion to this or that, but what confused me about the interview boils down to these two quotes, taken completely out of context:

Kornheiser:... Sean Taylor had had a troubled background. Had been arrested multiple times, had brandished weapons... I know that the Washington Post and the Miami Herald are going to report this out. And my guess is... we're going to find out things that are not flattering to all the people involved...

Wilbon: ... the reporting that unfolds following the initial tragedy makes people uncomfortable. Because you're now going to hear things you don't want to hear, cause you're a fan. You're going to hear things that happened to one of your heroes, you're going to hear things that involved one of your heroes...

And there is a whole lot more to that interview than what I have above, taken out of context. And also, Michael Wilbon is just kind of a jerk. I mean I really, really, really love PTI, I really have enjoyed some of his columns, I really don't want to hate Michael Wilbon. But he appears to be a total and complete jerk. I liked him better at Kissing Suzy Kolber which has now become comedy impersonating real people impersonating comedy.

In any event, here's my issue with the general sentiment above, that we're going to, in the future, "find out things that are not flattering to all the people involved"... First, initially, well fucking DUH. We're going to find out who murdered Sean Taylor. And the fact that that person murdered Sean Taylor will not reflect flatteringly on said shithead.

More importantly, if Tony is suggesting that we're going to find out something unflattering about Sean Taylor, would it really kill you, as a columnist and pundit opposed to a reporter, to actually wait for those future facts to come to light?

Even more importantly, I'm interested to hear what that fact pattern could possibly be that will reflect poorly on a guy who was murdered in his own home? Is Tony suggesting that we'll find out the guy who murdered Sean Taylor was his drug dealer? Is that the kind of fact we're talking about? Out of respect for the player, I think we all have a responsibility not to speculate on imaginary bad-behavior on the part of Sean until facts are actually in.

On an unrelated note, I predict that in 17 days a story will break in the Washington Times that Tony Kornheiser molested 2,774 children at a Hotel in East Timor. Don't ask me how I know that, I exist to write my opinion, therefore I can speculate on facts yet reported.

More likely, and I've read this elsewhere, I think what Tony is suggesting is that we'll find out Sean Taylor had some connection with the murderer, that he was either a jealous old friend of the kind Antre Rolle was talking about or perhaps he was one of the people involved in the prior ATV incident. Even were that the case, and it certainly appears like that's a possibility given the circumstances of the crime, why on earth would that reflect poorly on Sean Taylor? That the piece of shit who stole Sean Taylor's ATVs knew Sean, was retaliating against him for beating his ass, doesn't mean he was right or justified in doing so. It just means that the piece of shit was a thief and a murderer. There's this crazy assumption that Sean Taylor was somehow wrong to confront the people who stole from him. Perhaps he was wrong to "simple assault" them, but that's 2nd degree misdemeanor wrong. Not, you-brought-this-vicious-murder-on-yourself-you-horrible-delinquent, wrong.

Did you know? Under Florida Statute, adultery is also a 2nd degree misdemeanor. 798.01. Living in open adultery reads:

Whoever lives in an open state of adultery shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. Where either of the parties living in an open state of adultery is married, both parties so living shall be deemed to be guilty of the offense provided for in this section.
So is misusing vending machines GASP!

Also, there is nothing currently on record that shows Sean "had brandished weapons" at anyone. What is on record is a simple battery and simple assault charge he plead no contest to, and the elements of those crimes under Florida law do not include the presence of a gun, whereas an element of aggravated assault and battery is the presence of a deadly weapon. The aggravated assault charge was dropped. The State of Florida does not believe that Sean Taylor had a gun at the ATV incident, per their decision to drop the aggravated assault charge. Isn't it possible that Sean Taylor, consistent with what he said even after the plea bargain, never had a gun at that fight?

To Wilbon I'd say much of the same. I'd also add that if I'm "going to hear things that happened to one of your heroes... hear things that involved one of your heroes..." it will necessarily include him defending his home and family against murderers with a machete. And that impresses me. I mean really, truly, absolutely impresses me, damn near regardless of the circumstances. Short of breaking news that Sean Taylor was killed because he drew the ire of a kitten-loving syndicate once they found fields of kitten harvesting buried beneath his basement and farmed by aliens, I doubt there's much that will be said about Sean Taylor that's going to sully my opinion of him (and I hate kittens). Will it be revealed, OH NO!, that Sean Taylor hung out with rough people? And?

As a human being, isn't he entitled to select his company without fear of being murdered? Finally, isn't he entitled to the benefit of the doubt until these mysterious facts yet reported come to light? Especially considering the now proven history of people accusing Sean Taylor of doing things (DUI, aggravated assault) he didn't actually do?

Lee Gibbons knows what I'm talking about.

I doubt Jason Whitlock does, though.

I think Mike Freeman gets it.

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So disappointed in these guys
I posted it a few days ago... for writers for the Washington Post, they should know better. It made me so angry... UGH

In other news, we learned today in my history class that former Civil War General Albert Sidney Johnston died from a gunshot wound to the femoral artery (or at least that's what the video said).

Honestly, I haven't been able to escape Taylor's death in the last few days. It's unbelievable.

by BlackOps on Nov 28, 2007 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

Posted this on ExtremeSkins today..
Just a little bit ago I was flipping back and forth between PTI and the Washington Post show on Comcast, but did Wilbon or Kornheiser mention anything about what's going on with the Redskins and Sean? I'm pretty sure they didn't. Why not? I realize it's the day after, but wouldn't the death of one of the NFL's biggest stars at least be mentioned? How about the Redskins dealing with the huge loss and being able to play on Sunday? I don't get it. Hopefully I just missed the segment on Sean and the team.

(note -- Nope, they didn't mention anything)

This does however bring me to the point a lot of other posters have been saying about Michael Wilbon's and other sports writers' attitude to the story. I watched "Talking Points," and just had a few comments on the points both Tony and Michael made.

I realize Wilbon wants to illustrate this situation as a young, black man who either couldn't leave his "thug" roots or refused to leave those roots. I think the point a lot of us were making is that he either NEVER had those hardcore thug connections to begin with OR he definitely had broken free of his young, immature indiscretions in the past two years. Wilbon mentions on the Talking Points section that fans defending Sean from the negative press are naïve to the "reality" of the situation and that Michael Wilbon, not being part of the Redskins payroll, doesn't feel the need to "spin" his opinion to put Sean in a more positive light than what Sean actually lived. Just because Wilbon wants to pretend that his thinking is on some higher wavelength than the average fan, doesn't mean it holds any kind of weight. If Wilbon is convinced that Sean Taylor was somehow involved in something more scandalous or hadn't in fact become more of a responsible adult in the past 18 months, then he needs to write that. Back up your article and opinions with something more than speculation and an angry finger wag at the "people who can't get out of Dodge." All signs point to the fact that Sean, in fact, DID. And while I respect Wilbon's views and passion for the subject, I think he seems to come off as WANTING Sean to have been caught up in that lifestyle just to prove how much he knows about the subject.

Coming off as cynical or a "realist" is fine, but being disrespectful to Sean's family and friends and people who knew him is another. Michael Wilbon is doing nothing but adding to the ridiculous and uniformed opinions being spoken and written about Sean.

- Ryan -

by Ryan @ Hogs Haven on Nov 28, 2007 9:57 PM EST reply actions  

I caught that bit
about not being paid by the Redskins staff.

Neither am I. Neither was Judge Randy I. Bellows. Neither was the ASA that dropped the aggravated assault charge.

I don't fault columnists and pundits for talking about the future; part of what they do is predict. But some topics should be off limits, and a murder investigation is probably one of them. Stating as fact that something scandalous will be revealed about Sean Taylor in the investigation of the person who murdered him isn't fair to the family. Or Sean, especially, since he doesn't have an opportunity to defend himself.

by Skin Patrol on Nov 28, 2007 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

the problem i have is...
is the fact that kornheiser flat out lied. 'arrested multiple times', 'brandished weapons'. huh? where did he get that from. its no surprise that im finding myself in arguements with people who say things like 'sean taylor deserved to get shot' and 'his 18-month old daughter will be better off without him'. shame on kornheiser. i hope that mistake guy corrected at the end of the show

by josh @ Hogs Haven on Nov 29, 2007 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

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